Jacinda Ardern Discusses Popularity Decline on Graham Norton Show

Former Prime Minister Dame Jacinda Ardern reflected on the decline of her public approval ratings leading up to her resignation from politics in January 2023. She shared her insights during a recent appearance on The Graham Norton Show, where she was joined by notable figures including actor Kate Winslet, comedians Alan Carr and Seth Meyers, and singer Cat Burns. The episode aired on Saturday morning in New Zealand Time as part of her promotional tour for her new documentary, *Prime Minister*.

During the discussion, host Graham Norton inquired about the factors contributing to her popularity decline. He asked, “What went wrong? What was the tipping point?” Ardern responded by highlighting that the global political landscape has shifted significantly, with rising aggression and hostility towards political leaders. She noted, “I don’t think it is just any one leader who has experienced that shift. It has shifted, and amongst all of that, I do think we’re at a moment in time.”

Ardern emphasized the need for a more positive political environment. “In response to that moment in time, my plea is for people is to not give up on the prospect that politics can be better. Expect decency in politics, expect kindness in your politics. I do think we will come back to that,” she stated.

Recognition and Personal Challenges

Throughout the show, Ardern received heartfelt praise from Winslet, who commended her for how she managed to navigate her pregnancy during coalition talks with New Zealand First following the 2017 election. Just a week after those discussions, Ardern became Prime Minister when Winston Peters agreed to form a government with the Labour Party. Winslet expressed her admiration, stating, “Oh my god, she is so amazing,” to which Ardern humbly responded, “You are so amazing.”

Although the episode has been broadcast internationally, it has yet to air in New Zealand, with a scheduled release on the TVNZ app set for December 12.

In a separate interview with BBC Radio 4 last week, Ardern discussed the personal challenges she faced while keeping her pregnancy private for 20 weeks. She dealt with severe morning sickness and nausea, which she described as “pretty bad.” Ardern explained her decision to keep her pregnancy under wraps, stating that she wanted to ensure no one questioned her dedication to her role. She aimed to demonstrate that it is possible to be both a competent leader and a present mother simultaneously. “I am not going to lie, those first 20 weeks were hard, but they were also doable,” she remarked.

Ardern’s insights into the changing political climate and her personal experiences highlight her commitment to leadership during challenging times. Her reflections resonate with many who seek to understand the complexities of modern political dynamics and the personal sacrifices that often accompany public service.